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18 Feb 2016 19:01 #25721

Hello there My name Is Mark and I accidentally became the owner of rather tired and battered Move last year . I hear this is the place with all the answers and there is a Guy called Darren who knows his Moves. Hope so I have so many questions that nobody seems to know the answers to elsewhere on the Internet. I can hold a Spanner and have a rough idea. I have spannered many cars but these little things are little boxes of Mystery right now. Pretty much everything I have done on the car has been Jazz Mechanics, and finding parts has been a case of buy it and hope it fits. So due to finding parts availability a bit of a problem I did the obvious thing and bought another one equally as knackered . I need my head read.

Last Edit: 18 Feb 2016 19:42 by Mr Unhinged. Reason: Wanted to add more info, spellcheck

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18 Feb 2016 19:45 #25722

Oh yeah Here are my 2 Moves

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19 Feb 2016 15:31 #25723

Hello and welcome!

Your two Moves are looking good! Many tuning parts are available from Japan and Malaysia (including Move SR-XX parts ;) ), if you're interested in that sort of thing.


1998 Daihatsu Mira TR-XX Avanzato R4
1991 Autozam Carol Type-G
1994 Nissan S13
1997 BMW E36 316i Saloon
1996 BMW E36 323i Compact (Sold)
1998 Toyota Chaser JZX100 (Sold)
1998 Toyota Soarer JZZ30 (Sold)
2000 Perodua Nippa L201 (Sold)
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19 Feb 2016 20:36 #25724

Thanks Mark, Im looking to get mine working properly first but Im not adverse to a little Mod here and there. Currently the manual one is blowing lots of white smoke out in the mornings (I suspect the head) but its holding its own and not missing a beat,
Thing is I have zero info on the engines right now, things like torque pressures, loosening and tightening sequence of the head, does it need skimming, will the studs need replacing? and if the engine turns out to be toast Is the strong one with good compression out of the Auto a straight swap. Either way while the engine is out a cam belt change will be in order, so would it be advisable to change the waterpump? Bearing in mind its a budget build and I want one good car out of the two.

The Auto one is juddering like crazy on low revs , I have cleaned the idle valve changed the Dizzy cap plugs leads and rotor arm and treated it to fresh Oil. When I checked the Oil in the auto box it was nigh on empty and the engine overfilled. Is there any way a fluid transference from one to the other occurred? If that engine is a No go is there a plug and play option from the Daihatsu back catalogue?
See what I mean trillions of questions and no manual or info. Is there a Diagnostics plug under the dash as well as the one under the bonnet cos Im buggered if I can find one anywhere? I cant find much info on the web either so I must be looking in the wrong places . Daihatsu tech seems to be harder to find than official secrets stuff. Is there any manuals with engine info that can help me I keep hearing ED as the engine code being quoted :D

Last Edit: 19 Feb 2016 20:41 by Mr Unhinged.

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19 Feb 2016 21:14 #25725

I don't have much experience with the ED-20 engine, however this should help you in regards to the diagnostics plug under the bonnet. B)

Also, in terms of engine swaps, taking the strong one out of the auto and mating it to the manual gearbox of the other one should be fine. These engines aren't that sophisticated and are identical, aside from the gearbox and ECU.


1998 Daihatsu Mira TR-XX Avanzato R4
1991 Autozam Carol Type-G
1994 Nissan S13
1997 BMW E36 316i Saloon
1996 BMW E36 323i Compact (Sold)
1998 Toyota Chaser JZX100 (Sold)
1998 Toyota Soarer JZZ30 (Sold)
2000 Perodua Nippa L201 (Sold)
Last Edit: 19 Feb 2016 21:17 by loopdeloop.
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19 Feb 2016 23:54 #25726

Nice one, Have been nosing about on here tonight and have learnt quite a bit so far, Truth is the Move was intended to be a daily while I messed about with my Other car. Thing is its turned into a project on its own now. They have so much potential and even in standard form punch well above their weight. As someone who has owned all sorts of cars I have discovered Its much more fun to hoon about in a small underpowered car than to hold back in something much more powerful. Always rooted for the underdog. As for eventual plans Im aiming for a slight tweak here and there. A little lower, Slightly more rubber on the road, perhaps on slightly wider steels. Perhaps a little hop up here and there under the bonnet. Keeping it quite subtle and standard looking though.

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20 Feb 2016 01:06 #25728

I haven't experienced the ED-20 engine in full glory yet, as I've been restoring a Perodua Nippa L201 (which is an old Daihatsu Mira/Cuore L201, built under license in Malaysia by the Perodua brand and fitted with the newer ED-20 Daihatsu engine). However, I do have a newer Daihatsu Mira/Cuore L5 660cc turbo and definitely agree with you on having fun hooning around in a small car. My BMW is no where near as fun as the Daihatsu.

I've recently given the Perodua a full service - Plugs, timing belt kit, oil change, gearbox oil change, air filer, oil filter and fuel filter, so if you need any part numbers give me a shout!


1998 Daihatsu Mira TR-XX Avanzato R4
1991 Autozam Carol Type-G
1994 Nissan S13
1997 BMW E36 316i Saloon
1996 BMW E36 323i Compact (Sold)
1998 Toyota Chaser JZX100 (Sold)
1998 Toyota Soarer JZZ30 (Sold)
2000 Perodua Nippa L201 (Sold)
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20 Feb 2016 18:10 #25729

Hi mark and welcome B)

I'll give Darren a friendly nudge in this direction ;)

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20 Feb 2016 20:28 #25731

Hi and welcome to Kkitp.

Unfortunately I don't have much info or knowledge on the standard 3cyl 850 engines as I just kept the engine standard and when it got old and knackered I fitted a 4cyl 660cc jbjl engine.

I have many random manuals hiding away somewhere, so I'll see if I can dig them out and get the data info they have in them for you :)

If you have any other specific questions please feel free to send me a message and I'll try and answer them asap (^_^)

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20 Feb 2016 20:46 #25732

Mark wrote:

I haven't experienced the ED-20 engine in full glory yet, as I've been restoring a Perodua Nippa L201 (which is an old Daihatsu Mira/Cuore L201, built under license in Malaysia by the Perodua brand and fitted with the newer ED-20 Daihatsu engine). However, I do have a newer Daihatsu Mira/Cuore L5 660cc turbo and definitely agree with you on having fun hooning around in a small car. My BMW is no where near as fun as the Daihatsu.

I've recently given the Perodua a full service - Plugs, timing belt kit, oil change, gearbox oil change, air filer, oil filter and fuel filter, so if you need any part numbers give me a shout!

Nice one Fella will bear that in mind, funnily enough out of the few things I have managed to get In Halfords, the Oil filter is actually stocked . When I enquired about a Rotor Arm, Dizzy cap and what Aisle they were kept these days I was shocked.
"We don't stock those parts for any cars now Sir, nobody does that themselves any more its a little too advanced for our customers" . I retorted"I quite despair for a world where someone does not have a the mental capacity to change a Dizzy cap, but never mind at least I can buy a Tent and some travel scrabble to amuse me while I await rescue from the pros"..So E bay it was. 3 days later and to prove how it wasn't a bit too advanced for an average member of the public to fit , I sat back and handed tools to the Missus while she fitted the bits. which with minimal interference and as a first timer, she did in 15mins flat. I could go into a rant about these guys killing off motorfactors and then not bothering to stock the stuff the independents did... but not yet . Cam belt will be on the cards soon though.

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